It’s no secret that all the military services shared a long history of excluding gay men, bisexuals, and lesbians from its ranks. But from President Clinton’s 1993 "Don't ask, don't tell policy" or DADT to President Obama’s landmark legislation to repeal DADT altogether on September 20, 2011, many LGBTQ service members felt a sense of liberation and that equality had prevailed. But has it really? How far have the military services come in equal treatment of its LGBTQ service members? To many, in and out of uniform, perception is not the reality, and there still exists a stigma of being gay in the military. Is there true equity, understanding and empathy regarding sexual orientation and gender among the service leadership ranks and Pentagon policy makers?

Join our panel in discussion as former service members look at these questions and share their individual perspectives and personal stories.

Moderator: David Barker
Education Specialist, National Museum of the U.S. Navy

Patrick Burns, Deputy Director, Naval History and Heritage Command, and Captain, USN (Ret)
Jay Stillpec: Former Navy broadcast journalist and mass communications specialist
Joel Tinsley-Hall: Former musician, U.S. Army Band and Chorus, Europe
Scott Tinsley-Hall: Director of Strategy & Market Intelligence, University of Maryland Medical Center (UMMC)

This program will be in the museum’s Education Center, Building 76, Washington Navy Yard. Social distancing and mask requirements will be observed.

Note: Due to security requirements at the Washington Navy Yard, you will need to park outside the base and then be escorted onto the base then to the museum building. If taking metro, take the Green line and exit the Navy Yard /Ballpark metro stop, then walk to the main base entrance at 6th and M Street (about 15 minutes).

Parking Options: If driving, limited, metered street parking is available across the street from the main entrance. Street parking in the area surrounding the Harris Teeters is also available. Another option is to use the Harris Teeters underground parking garage. Parking is free for one hour. You will need to validate your ticket in the store before leaving the garage. Please be outside the main entrance by 11am on the program date. Please be prompt. A museum educator will be there to escort you onto the base.

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Moderator and Panelists for the Brown Bag Brief

Moderator and Panelists:  (left to right): David Barker (Moderator).  Patrick C. Burns, Jay Stillpec, Scott Tinsley-Hall, Joel Tinsley-Hall (Panelists)